Gallantry and Intrepidity:
3rd Bn, 26th Marines in Operation Meade River.
By Kyle Watts 8/1/2017
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"SEND IN THE 26TH MARINES"
The Tet Offensive, Khe Sanh, and the battle for Hue City are important and defining moments of the Vietnam War in 1968. Marines carried out countless other less remembered, less publicized, operations throughout that year. Many of these battles, though shorter in duration and smaller in scale, proved consequential to the United States military’s broader plans for success.
The warriors of 3rd Battalion, 26th Marines fought in many such lesser known engagements. If 1968 had been a busy year for the Marine Corps, 3/26 was no exception. In fact, the battalion had been busy ever since their arrival to Vietnam two years earlier. The battalion continuously found itself wherever they were needed, parceled out to any division in any sector calling for support at the time.
“Every time something came up, they said ‘send in the 26th Marines,’” remembered Lee Solomon, a veteran from Lima 3/26. “We lived in the jungle. We didn’t have an area of operations. We were nomads in country and everywhere we went, we were in a fight. I spent 19 months in combat there and that’s all I did the whole time.” They fought through numerous smaller operations and played central roles in large scale engagements such as the battle of Con Thien and the siege of Khe Sanh.
Experiences in the bush ranged from hilarious to harrowing. These shaped the battalion’s spirit and cemented the Marines’ dedication to each other through every succeeding operation. During one example from late summer 1968, the battalion found itself on the side of a mountain, in the middle of a typhoon, moving through the Hai Van pass. After several days soaked and submerged with trench foot now a common ailment, the Marines began hiking out. Staff Sergeant Karl Taylor of India Company moved up and down the column encouraging everyone on foot. “Come on Marines! This is no worse than anything you experienced in boot camp!” Gunny T, as Taylor was affectionately known, had been a drill instructor at both enlisted boot camp and Officer Candidates School. He knew how to properly motivate a group of Marines. The battalion made it to Da Nang, adding a typhoon to their ever-growing list of Vietnam life experiences.
Like Gunny T, everyone had a nickname. “Muddy Boots”, “Tumbleweed”, “Stretch”, and “Bambino” to name a few. Some were earned and some were bestowed unwillingly on the recipient. Many times the nicknames were intended to make things less personal, just in case the Marine was killed. Other times, the nickname originated as a term of endearment that bonded the Marines closer together.
By November 1968, 3/26 was a battle-hardened brotherhood of infantrymen. Their warfighting skills were soon called upon to help clean out a notoriously bad area known to the Marines as “Dodge City.”
DODGE CITY
The area occupied less than fifteen square miles of ground Southwest of Da Nang. The terrain was flat, bounded by rivers, and covered in rice paddies and elephant grass. The most prominent feature was a high railroad berm running like a spine straight across the entire sector. Considering its relatively small size, Dodge City held a disproportionately large number of bad guys. The region acted as a staging area and command post for Viet Cong (VC) and North Vietnamese Army (NVA) units moving towards the US installations at Da Nang. Over the years, the enemy turned the landscape into an intricate network of dug in bunkers, connecting underground tunnels, hidden spider holes, and innumerable other concealed positions. Given the terrain advantage afforded to the enemy, Marines in Dodge City were usually taking fire before they ever even saw where it came from.
Marines had been there many times before. Even 3/26 had fought there just a few months earlier in July 1968 during Operation Mameluke Thrust. Every time, Dodge City proved its reputation as a wild, free fire zone always full of action. Marine commanders finally had enough and decided to clean it out for good.
The operation, called Meade River, was set to commence on November 20th. Generally, the plan was straightforward: surround the area, squeeze the circle tight, and kill every bad guy they found until the Marines met in the middle. To conduct this massive cordon and search, six infantry battalions from three Marine regiments, and a Battalion Landing Team under Navy control, were brought together. Enough helicopters to create the largest Marine air assault of the Vietnam War were not enough to move everyone into place. Some battalions were trucked into position, still others humped on foot.
Commanders designed the cordon to place a Marine every 15 to 20 meters all the way around Dodge City. Inch by inch, hole by hole, the Marines would shrink the cordon, thoroughly searching every place to hide and eliminating any threats. In the early morning hours of November 20th, the operation commenced. Shortly after 0800, Marines had sealed off Dodge City and snapped the cordon shut.
THE HORSESHOE
Marines of 3/26 settled into position on the southwest side of the cordon near the junction of the railroad berm and Route Four. On their left flank, 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines began the opening moves to shrink the cordon. For 3/26, the first two days were relatively quiet. The battalion maintained its portion of the line while 2/7 moved into the attack and South Vietnamese troops worked to evacuate the remaining civilians from Dodge City. At night, VC and NVA fighters attempted to escape the trap. Numerous times the enemy was seen moving through the darkness and fired upon by the Marines. Sometimes they fell, and their bodies were found the next day. Other times the figures melted back into the shadows. The Marines of Kilo and India Companies engaged in nightly firefights, taking sniper rounds, grenades, and 60 millimeter mortars. Casualties were sustained on both sides.
On the 23rd, 3/26 began pushing north and east from Route Four into an area known as “the Horseshoe.” The size of one grid square, and named for the distinctive "U" shaped stream that bounded the area, the Horseshoe proved to be the first enemy stronghold met in Dodge City. 2/7 hit resistance here almost immediately on the opening day of the operation, and had been thrown back multiple times. Now the Marines of Lima 3/26 were sent in direct support of the next assault. Lima encountered the same stiff resistance, suffering four killed and more wounded.
The following day, Marines made their 5th attempt to overrun the enemy dug into the Horseshoe. Kilo 3/26 was now pulled to support 2/7 in the assault alongside Lima. Intense machine gun and sniper fire raked the Marines as they moved less than 200 yards from where they began. Under fire and moving through dense foliage, the attack stalled yet again. Kilo received the brunt of this round, sustaining half the overall casualties of the day.
Resistance in the Horseshoe had been tougher than anticipated. If this opening act of Meade River was any indication of how the entire operation would go, it did not bode well. Clearly more VC and NVA occupied Dodge City than had been anticipated, and clearly they were not going to surrender.
Recognizing the futility of another infantry assault, the Marines pulled back from the Horseshoe and let loose an artillery barrage. Howitzers decimated the area the entire morning of the 25th. In the afternoon Marines finally overran the Horseshoe and reached their objective at the railroad berm.
The battalion had been bloodied early and quickly, finding itself in the middle of the hottest action. Unfortunately for them, this would not be the last enemy stronghold they encountered, or the last time they found themselves in the middle of the action. Their path to the center of the circle would be unlike any other participating battalion.
TIGHTENING THE NOOSE
Over the next few days, Marines all over Dodge City shrank the cordon inch by inch. Many Marines carried probes to locate the enemy beneath their feet. These slender metal canes, three feet long with a “T” handle on top, were stabbed into the ground everywhere as the Marines walked. If the probe slid easily into the dirt, the Marine knew he was standing on top of an enemy tunnel, spider hole, weapons cache, or any one of the numerous dwellings the NVA had burrowed into the landscape. The battalion’s Command Chronology for this period noted that supporting arms fire was often ineffectual and, “It was found that the enemy had to be ferreted out by individual Marines, using tactics similar to those used during World War II during the Island Campaigns.”
Air support was difficult to coordinate. With Marines closing the cordon on an already cramped area, any bombs or napalm dropped were considered danger close. Also, many of the enemy fortifications were deep in the ground, reinforced with concrete, and covered in several feet of dirt and railroad ties stolen from the berm running through Dodge City. From these fortifications the enemy could wait out any barrage and come up to ambush the infantry as they passed through the open rice paddies.
Despite the challenges, 3/26 pushed on. Probes revealed weapon stocks, tunnels, booby traps, shallow enemy graves, and spider holes. Often times the enemy revealed themselves only after the Marines had unknowingly walked right over their position. Sometimes the only good way to locate the enemy was for a Marine to expose himself, wait to be shot at, and look for the muzzle flash.
Some Marines had their own methods for finding the enemy. At one point during the operation, Cpl Felipe Torres and other India Company Marines were moving through elephant grass scouring the ground. Torres stopped India’s Forward Observer, Larry “Beaver” Gore.
“Beaver,” he said, “I think I smell them.”
“You smell them?” Beaver replied.
“Yeah, they’re over there in that brush.” Said Torres.
“Well, go get them!” said Beaver.
With the platoon leader in tow, Cpl Torres low crawled into the brush. After several meters, he stumbled upon two Viet Cong creeping out of a spider hole. They were in the process of handing up a grenade to throw at passing Marines. Startled at the sight of the VC popping out of the ground right in front of him, Torres yelled, “Hey dude!” and immediately shot both enemy soldiers at point blank range with his pistol. Torres back peddled through the brush as fast as he could into his platoon leader, who opened up over his head with a submachine gun. The enemy fighters fell back into their hole dropping the grenade.
Several yards away, India’s Company Commander, Captain Ron Hoover, was talking on the radio. Without warning, he heard Torres’s shout, immediately followed by the “BANG BANG” of a .45, the staccato “DA-DA-DA-DA-DA” of a submachine gun, and finally the “BOOM” of a grenade. Still trying to absorb the events of the last few seconds, a bootless foot tumbled through the air and landed on the ground next to where Hoover was standing. “Great,” he thought, “I’ve lost another Lieutenant.”
Much to his relief, both Torres and the lieutenant emerged unscathed from the brush. Cpl Torres would later be awarded the Silver Star for heroic actions demonstrated throughout Meade River, and eventually rose to the rank of Colonel.
Thanksgiving Day came and passed as a brief respite for the battalion. On their right flank, 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines prepared to punch into the heart of Dodge City. Their objective was a parcel of land bounded by a bend in the Suoi Co Ca River. Occupying less than a third of a grid square, the Marines didn’t know this tiny pocket of land housed the NVA command center for the whole Dodge City area. To the Marines, it was simply, “the Hook.”
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THE HOOK
For two days, 3/5 battled for position. An entrenched enemy repulsed each new assault wave, leaving the battalion with many casualties. The type and number of enemy bunkers within the Hook were unlike those faced in the Horseshoe, and defended even more tenaciously. On December 3rd, 3/26 was called in to replace 3/5 on the front line.
The previous assaults had demonstrated two things. First, an infantry assault into the Hook without air support was suicide. Second, the bunkers in the Hook were so well constructed, many of them could withstand artillery and air power. Given these facts, 3/26 chose a new, more risky tactic: bombard the Hook while the infantry assaulted. This was the only way to keep the NVA’s heads down long enough for the Marines to maneuver into position. “Danger Close” was redefined as 500 pound bombs and napalm began fell within 100 yards of the Marine line.
Just across the river from the Hook, 2/5 and 2/26 had closed the cordon from the East up to the Suoi Co Ca’s banks. They watched as Marine F-4 Phantoms screamed in overhead unloading their ordnance. Showered in dirt and debris from the explosions, the battalions pulled back from the river trying to avoid friendly fire.
Into this maelstrom 3/26 surged. From the ground, India Company 2nd Platoon leader Chris Tibbs watched as one F-4 flew in low and fast along the river. On its first pass, one tank of napalm tumbled to the ground and exploded on target. On the second run, Lieutenant Tibbs watched in horror as the Phantom’s remaining tank of napalm released from the front, but hung up on the back. Finally the tank released, overshooting the target and heading right at the Marines’ position. As Tibbs watched the tank barreling towards him, he was hit. Not by a bullet or bomb, but by Gunny T. At a sprint, Karl Taylor speared Tibbs to the ground, screaming, “Hold your breath Lieutenant!” Miraculously, the napalm exploded without harming the Marines.
The battalion fought in along the south side of the Hook. Casualties began to mount and some platoons were reduced to squad sized elements. Enemy snipers and machine gunners took their toll ambushing Marines in the open as they advanced only 20 yards away. Hospitalman James Tarrance moved around the field performing first aid. When one Marine fell wounded, Tarrance came forward positioning himself in full view between the enemy and the injured man. He was quickly shot through the neck and killed. For his heroism, Tarrance was posthumously awarded the Silver Star.
Another Marine armed with a M72 Light Anti-Tank Weapon stood to fire his rocket at an enemy bunker. Simultaneously, an enemy soldier stood and leveled his rifle to fire. The Marine adjusted his aim and managed to pull the trigger faster than his enemy, obliterating the soldier and his AK-47.
The battalion continued fighting in this fashion for two more days before they finally overran the hook. On December 5th, the battalion found nearly 100 dead enemy soldiers as they consolidated and mopped up any remaining tunnels and bunkers. Some dead could not be counted as they were buried deep under destroyed fortifications. Less than ten prisoners had been taken.
THE CENTER OF THE CIRCLE
The NVA and VC had proven they were not giving up and would not go without a fight. The cordon squeezed all remaining enemy into the center of Dodge City with their backs to the La Tho River. As 3/26 pushed them north out of the Hook, Marines from 1/1 along the north side of the cordon picked off any NVA who attempted to ford the river and escape the trap. The enemy knew the end was near, and prepared to fight to the death. This last holdout became known as, “the Northern Bunker Complex,” and proved to be the bitterest fighting of the entire operation.
With the cordon now significantly smaller in size, some participating battalions were sent home. The Marines of 3/26 thought they would be one of those homeward bound units, given the fierce fighting they experienced and their depleted numbers. This, however, did not materialize. Two battalions east of the Suoi Ca Co departed. 3/26, still in the center of the circle would remain in place to finish the job.
To reinforce their dwindling numbers, 3/26 was given control over two additional rifle companies for their assault into the Northern Bunker Complex. On December 7th, the battalion began the 1000 meter drive north into this last enemy stronghold to complete the pacification of Dodge City.
As expected, the initial assaults met heavy resistance. Moving through waist high brush and elephant grass, Marines could get within feet of an enemy position before they even knew it was there. By nightfall, the battalion was forced to halt and dig in. Many casualties were suffered, and Marines spent the night searching through the darkness for their fallen. The numerous bomb craters marking the landscape offered the only protection against the enemy emplacements.
By this point, air support was impossible to coordinate. With 3/26 to the south and 1/1 across the river to the north, the enemy was confined to a very narrow strip of land. One attempted napalm strike went awry, hitting Lima company positions and burning four Marines. Eventually even mortars were forbidden due to the extreme likelihood of friendly fire. The Northern Bunker Complex would have to be taken by Marines on the ground with rifles, grenades, pistols, and Ka-bars.
The Marines could sense the end of the battle was near and were ready to be done with it. A tree line concealing enemy bunkers stood less than 100 yards away from the Marine front across an open, dried up rice paddy. Just beyond that, the La Tho and 1/1 in their blocking position. In the late afternoon of December 8th, Commanders ordered the battalion into the attack, hoping to crush the remaining NVA with one final push. Preparing to dig in for the night, 3/26 hastily readied themselves instead to advance once more. They had not had time to attempt a recon of the area to determine what they were up against, but they knew it would be fearsome.
SUPREME SACRIFICE
As the sun set over their left flank, all companies stood online and began the creep forward. Standing exposed, inching across the paddy, an eerie silence pervaded the battlefield. “It went dead quiet,” said Chris Tibbs, “there was not a round fired by the bad guys, the most quiet we’d had all day. Talk about foreboding!” Punctuated only by the ringing in their ears and the sound of their footsteps, the calm continued until the Marines moved around 30 yards ahead of their position. The crack of a single sniper’s bullet ripped through the air. Marines heard over the radio a platoon leader from India Company was hit. As the call crackled over the radio, all hell broke loose.
NVA machine guns concealed in bunkers caught 3/26 in the open. Marines dove or fell into the numerous craters or against a small rice paddy dike. “Every time I’d lift my head that gun would open up and the rounds would come zinging,” remembered Mike “Diddybop” DiGiampaolo. “It’s like a weed whacker going through the bush.”
All over the field Marines were cut off and pinned to the ground. Chris Tibbs’s India Two, now barely a squad, occupied a bomb crater. Calling it their “Alamo”, Tibbs told the Marines to bring all the dead and wounded back the crater, where they would hold their position.
Hearing Tibbs’s order, Karl Taylor crossed the kill zone finding India CO Ron Hoover.
“Skipper, give me that blooper,” he said. “My men are in trouble. I’ve got to go help my Marines.”
Hoover handed him the single shot M79 grenade launcher they had found abandoned by its owner earlier in the operation. SSgt Taylor took off into the twilight. Turning to Larry Gore, Hoover said, “Beaver, don’t let him do anything stupid. Go with him.”
Gunny T and Beaver moved from cover to cover, finding wounded Marines at each stop along the way. They directed those who could move, and assisted those who could not, back to the crater occupied by 2nd Platoon. As Beaver and the other Marines moved and carried the wounded, Gunny T lobbed a steady stream of grenades from his M79 into the enemy machine gun positions.
Multiple machine guns pinned down the Marines that night, but one in particular wreaked the most havoc in India’s section. An NVA soldier skillfully operated a 12.7 millimeter heavy machine gun. “He was good with it,” said Beaver, “He knew enough to fire six inches off the ground and small bursts.” The gunner found SSgt Taylor in his sights as the Marine moved about the field. Taylor found him as well, and kept the gunner’s head down with the M79 as Beaver and the others rescued the wounded.
After multiple trips from the crater into the field and back with wounded, Gunny T and Beaver crawled out a final time. They joined some of the Marines who were furthest ahead of the others and trapped close to the enemy bunkers. By this time, Gunny T had successfully silenced two enemy guns, and was out of grenades. The last remaining machine gun maintained a steady rate of fire. The Marines lie trapped on the ground, several already wounded. Taylor took all the M79 ammo the Marines with him had left, and ordered Beaver to get everyone else back to the crater with 2nd platoon.
They began to fall back when suddenly, through the darkness behind him, Beaver heard the dueling explosions of grenades versus machine gun. “It was horrible just hearing that,” he remembered. “We said, ‘oh my God he’s still alive. He’s still alive.’ We kept hearing ‘BLOOP…BOOM,’ then, ‘BOW BOW BOW BOW BOW!’” Charging through the open rice paddy, Taylor assaulted the NVA heavy machine gun, firing grenades as he ran.
The Marines heard the blooper fire once more and a final following retort from the heavy machine gun, then the field fell silent. When they finally reached his position later, the Marines found Taylor dead, killed by the enemy machine gunner. They also found with his last shot, Taylor had simultaneously knocked out that machine gun.
For his heroic actions, supreme sacrifice, and dedication to his Marines, SSgt Taylor was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor.
Following the duel, the Marines spent the remainder of the night engaged in hand to hand combat. The remaining NVA and VC in the area made their final attempts to break through the Marine lines and escape. They were not interested in surrender. They would escape or die. By day break on December 9th, few enemy remained to fight.
3/26 launched the final assault of the operation, overrunning the Northern Bunker Complex all the way to the La Tho River. The resistance encountered was determined, but lacking the scale and organization of the previous day. At 1800, Operation Meade River was officially declared complete.
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EPILOGUE: A HERO AMONG HEROS
The Marines fell back out of the Northern Bunker Complex and waited for their ride out of Dodge City. Helicopters dropped the remainder of the battalion back outside of Da Nang. Lieutenant Tibbs marched with his platoon through the gates.
“Who are you?” shouted a guard.
“India Two,” replied Tibbs.
The guard continued questioning. “Where is the rest of the platoon?”
“This IS India Two!” Tibbs fired back.
Only ten Marines remained out of 44.
Meade River dealt a tough blow to the NVA. Over 1000 enemy soldiers were killed. Just over 100 were captured. Nearly 400 fortified bunkers were destroyed, along with innumerable tunnels and spider holes. Meade River also exacted a high cost on the seven Marine battalions who participated. 108 Marines had been killed, and 510 wounded. Of those totals, 3/26 suffered 33 killed, and 141 wounded. For their gallantry and intrepidity, Marines from 3/26 earned ten Silver Stars, one Navy Cross, and the Medal of Honor. Richard Nixon awarded the battalion the Presidential Unit Citation for their role in the operation.
The pacification of Dodge City minimally affected the long term goals of the US military in Vietnam. Following the operation, no Marine units were tasked to remain in the area and maintain the hard fought victory. The enemy quickly moved back into the area and regained strength.
50 years ago, 3/26 wrote the story of Operation Meade River. Today, for many of the veterans who fought there, its story continues writing them.
“I saw the real Marines come out,” said Ron Hoover. “I did not have to tell them anything. We had a camaraderie there that I’ve never seen in any other infantry outfit that I was with in my 20 years. They were second to none. Karl [Taylor] was a hero that stood out among heroes. He was not the John Wayne type, but he had a dedication to the Marine Corps that all drill instructors have, and his troops were most important in his mind.”
For the Marines of 3/26, Operation Meade River receives mixed reviews. To some, their time in Dodge City was no different from the rest of their tours. Living in the bush, in constant combat, the events of November and December 1968 blend in with the rest.
For others, Meade River remains the fight they will never forget. No span of time can erase the memories of the Hook and Northern Bunker complex. No other point of their time in Vietnam can be more meaningful than the night Karl Taylor gave his life for them.
Author’s Note: To the warriors of 3rd Battalion, 26th Marines. Always on point. Thank you for your service, your sacrifice, and entrusting me with your stories. I wish you and your fallen all the honor you deserve. Semper Fidelis.
Originally published in Leatherneck Magazine, August 2017.
I was on the other side of the La Tho river as part of the blocking force. I was part of Charlie Company, 1/1. We listened to the horrific noise of the battle, the ensuing artillery and bombing Barrages which extended over two days. After 48 hours we were sent over to get an “official” body count and recover Marine bodies. I saw two piles of NVA body parts and dead NVA scattered over the extent of the Northern Bunker Complex. I and an other guy found a 15 year old NVA in uniform (see official Marine Corps history). I saw the open field where sergeant Taylor got his MOH. It had about 8 – 10 inches of water in it. The grass was mashed down, the water was red with blood, and it was littered with 782 gear (Marine field gear; helmets, flack jackets, cartridge belts, backpacks, etc.). I have always wondered why not photographs of that scene have appeared. NVA snipers were shooting at the whole time were doing our work. We were too numb to care.
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someone from 1/1 made a mudball around a pack of Marlboros and threw them across that small river to me thanks we enjoyed them
I was with I Co. 3/26 1st. Platoon 09/67 to 10/68. Semper Fi brothers.
I was was with 3rd blt lima company 26 marines. The path finders.
As a veteran of Khe Sanh and other major operations, Meade River will always stand out to me as the premier battle where we engaged with the enemy at close contact distances on a daily basis. At times, it felt like one long firefight that lasted 20 days with few lulls in between. The night of December 8, will be forever burnt into my memory. That night we lost many, including my friend and mentor, SSgt Karl Taylor (MOH). That night we remained engaged with the enemy all night long. We kept crawling forward to retrieve the wounded as the enemy kept crawling forward to kill the remaining wounded. It was a battle of spirits. As a 19-year old Platoon Sergeant, all I was concerned about was keeping Marines alive.
F. Phil Torres
Colonel of Marines, Retired
(Formerly Cpl Torres, 2nd Plt Sgt)
Thank you Sir for your comment, and reading this story! The veterans interviewed mentioned you frequently, and I’m very pleased to see this story made its way to you. Semper Fidelis.
Sir, I remember the evening of December 8th well. I was a 18y, PFC 0311 Grunt with 2Plt,
Hotel 2/5 at the time. We along with Alpha 1/7 were on the left flank of 3/26. The fighting I saw during those last three days of Meade River Dec. 7,8,9, was the most intense combat I saw during my tour in Vietnam. My company overran several NVA positions on the 8th.I fired more rounds through my M16, & threw more Frags at the NVA then any other day I spent in Vietnam.I took a NVA prisoner on the 8th also, after hitting him across the head with my Rifle butt, which had jammed on me. Even temporarily shot a captured AK-47, & another M16, before our 2plt Gun Squad leader unjammed my M16 for me. Sadly this Gunner was KIA’d about 5 to 10 minutes later. I believe his name was Larry Gordon Sandnes, who everyone called Strimmer.
On the evening of the 8th, our positions were at the edge of a NVA bunker complex which we had taken that afternoon. I was on watch in the evening, and I remember a tremendous amount of gun fire to the right of me comings from where 3/26 positions were.In our sector we were probed by the NVA, but all in all nothing like the combat on the right of us.
In the morning, I spent one of the saddest days of my life, I was on a work detail wrapping up my fellow dead Marines in ponchos & body bags, and loading them on the 46s.
Shortly after I was WIA’d myself and medic-vac out, didn’t want to go, but our Corpsman & Gunny insisted I go.
It’s somewhat amazing to me, that more hasn’t been written about Operation Meade River.
My uncle Babe Pinole was a radio man Lance CPL who passed away on December 7 1968Alfa 1/7
My best friend Mickey Walsh Kia December 19,1968 in doge city first day in the field. 51 caliber round to his chest.
Although ARMY I was his military escort requested by family who I love like my own.
A very hard and sad time for all.
Kevin Molloy
SSG Army 67-70
A friend of mine,David Moore was killed on Dec 8th. He was with L,3/26. My last memories of day was when he was home on leave just before he departed for Vietnam. He was a Cpl. I was wondering if you knew him and if you had any photos of him. You can email me at Butch_went@yahoo.com. I joined the Marines and was with 9thMAB 3MarDiv. I miss my friend Dave still today but I have no photos of him. I want to bring photos of him to the wall when I visit next. Thanks for your service. Butch
Thank you, for the call.
Did you my uncle Babe Pinole Lance CPL. Radio man. He passed away there Dec 7 1968
My dad Terry Hicks was with 3/26 and his buddy Dusty Rhodes was with 3/26 as well. Dad has told me a lot about the operations he was on. He was 0311. A cool thing happened years later when I myself was in the Marine Corps. (93-97) While stationed at MCAS Tustin I found out that a Marine that they served with in 3/26 was the SGT MAJ over at MCAS El Toro. His name was SGT MAJ Mike Niatoa (I don’t know if I spelled his last name correctly)
Hi Scott, his last name is spelled Niuatoa! He and I both were at Khe Sanh Hill881s and at Meade River!
S/F, Ted Rizo
I was there with India it was very rough but hell we are marines if it was to be any less they could let the army try it that’s just a jarhead joke
I hear ya brother, I was a 0311 Grunt with H2/5 along with A1/7, we were on the left flank of 3/26 during the attack on
the Northern Bunker complex December 7,8 9,1968.
you sure about the puc
Why was 3/5 replaced?
I knew SSGT. Taylor I served with from Feb 68 until I rotated out in Oct. 68. I found him to be a good Marine and a greater man. We had some good conversations during that time.
I did not know of his death until years later when I met up with Tom Rowe. Tom had been with him during Meade River. I also attended the dedication of the CMH Flag at his grave site. Semper FI.
I was with 2/7 in November and December of ‘68. I do remember a LT standing over a Vietcong hole that was shot and killed by a Vietcong soldier. We were dropping gas into holes. I could be wrong but I thought the LT was named Taylor.
I was with K/3/7 , 1967 , 1968
Dodge City was our ao .
We ran 5 man and squad size patrols in Dodge City. Karl Taylor is buried just a couple miles from my house. He was honored a few years ago. I have some great photos from that ceremony.
Was there with I Co mortars,knew Karl from up on the Hill (881S).
SSgt Taylor was the Sgt Instructor of Alpha-2, 41st OCC, August-November1966. I (in A-3) had a very brief encounter with him one day at the mess hall. He saved my butt from another Sgt Instructor who was taking “a special interest” in me. SSgt Taylor was outstanding and highly respected. I will be passing this message to the other Marine Officers in the 41st and TBS 3-67 who served with 3/26 during “those days” in 1967-68.
Well done,sir.. keeping 3/67 in the forefront! Thanks for your attention to details. Not bad for a 35! You do us all proud.
Thank you so much for writing this. SSGT KARL TAYLOR was my father in law. I’m married to Karl Jr. It’s always nice to meet up with the guys that were with him. Always learn something new.
we all wanted to be like gunny T
Correction the heavy gunfire was to my right not my left.
Hi Diane
I was a Grunt Rifleman with H 2/5 during the time
SSGT KARL TAYOR was KIA’d.
If I remember correctly, it was on the evening on December the 8th. We had just spent two days of heavy fighting, and I was on watch in the middle of enemy bunkers we’d taken that afternoon. I remember hearing heavy gunfire over to my left in the vicinity of L,I, 3/26.
I was a member of S Sgt Karl Taylor’s platoon in the 41st OCC at Quantico. He was admired and respected by every young man in the platoon. I remember being shocked and saddened when I heard of his death in combat. A great Marine and an outstanding human being.
I was in S/Sgt Karl Taylor’s platoon in the 41st OCC at Quantico. He was tough, but fair, and set a great example for us. He frequently singled me out for discipline in the early weeks and praise later on. I highly respected him and appreciated his thorough training in molding us into Marines. I think of him often.
The Photo of SSgt. Taylor, standing @ The Rock Crusher, near Da Nang, RVN, was actually taken by me. I sent it and many flicks from my album, of India Co. 2nd plt & Wpns Plt. ( I was a M60 MG squad leader)Marines to Chris T. It was used in the Leatherneck article about Karl’s post humous Medal of Honor award many years ago. It is interesting to notice we were pioneers of the “Camo” uniforms as shown by SSgt. Taylor’s dress. Utility tops and trousers were arriving in various sizes back then, although not always at the same time. Unfortunately a Malaria like fever put me in the hospital and was not with my guys @ Meade R. Ditty Bop, Hector Benson, Jim Reilly, Pete Haubner and more from wpns. plt.
Gunny T. was always kind to me, and helped so many Marines over there, get home safely.
I was co of Lima co on Meade River and India was on my right flank when SSgt Taylor got killed my company was also at the forefront on these action not just India so it should note it wasn’t just India carrying the load
Sir
I was a 18yr old 0311 Grunt with 2nd Plt, Hotel Company 2/5 on Lima’s left flank, and Alpha Company. 1/7 was on our left flank. If I remember correctly me along with my Squad leader saw Napalm dropped on Lima Co the morning of December 8th, before we launched our assault into the NVAs positions.
Yes Alpha 1/7, Hotel 2/5, Lima 3/26 had a tough go at it, but we did it.
Also, I didn’t learn this intill I came home from Vietnam,then, I found out that a home town Woodland Hills, California, Taft High School friend, Herbert Kirk Skinner,was KIA’d on Dec.7th 1968, while serving with A 1/7
on Operation Meade River.
My Husband was with Lima 3/5 . Did you have any contact with them??
Years have now past, but memories continue to surface. My Brother PFC. Dan E. Phenicie was one of several Marines that helped Herbert Kirk Skinner onto a chopper on Dec 7th 1969 only to take a round himself from the NVA through both of his wrist. Dan Was a sniper and was carrying a radio at the time. When I joined the Marines i carried a letter written my Brother to the Skinner family after graduation from MCRD. Many years later i found his name engraved on the Wall near the Lincoln Memorial which gripped my heart into sadness. May all the fallen rest in peace, and for the wounded, physically and mentally your efforts were not in vain. Sgt. Phenicie, 0331 USMC
I am so proud of all of you. And stumbled on this site after reviewing my father’s service records. Amazing comments…Sir, I believe you were the Captain of my late father- Sgt. Charles A Hamilton 3/26 during Meade River Nov 20th- Dec 10. My father didnt speak much about Vietnam. Anything or Anyone who knew him concerning stories etc would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely- Troy A Hamilton. thamilton1970@yahoo.com
Would like to hear from you re: Meade River
Hope this is still a good address
Just read your fine Article on Operation Meade River, but Sir, where is the contribution of A1/7, and H 2/5, both companies were under operational control of 3/26, during the attack on the Northern Bunker Complex.
And yes it was most 3 days of intense combat I saw during my tour in Vietnam. I was a 18y, 0311 Grunt with H 2/5 WIA on the 9th, my fellow home town, friend, Taft High School, Woodland Hills, California, Herbert Skinner, A 1/7 was KIA on the 7th.
I remember seeing Napalm dropped on L 3/26 before the attack on the 8th. Also 2Plt H 2/5, my Plt at the time, had Napalm dropped on us later that afternoon while overrunning NVA positions. I don’t blame anyone, it was just very intense, close quarter combat.
Also I believe I was the only one who took an NVA POW on the 8th. I hit him across the head with my Rifle butt & dragged him across a rice paddy.
Also,I will never forget the cool calm professional demeanor of our Skipper, Captain Ronald Drez.
I lost two fire team members on Operation Meade River, Jerome Long on December 4th and David Jalbert on December 8th. I was with India 3/26 third platoon, on the 4th , under the direction of Cpt Hoover, and under heavy fire David Jalbert , Bill Pearce , a Marine from Canada and myself retrieved the bodies of Jerome Long and another KIA named Williams. On the 8th myself and Rick Hawkins crawled out to retrieve the bodies of Lt Brian Webber ( 3rd platoon commander) and Jalbert. The night was tense for everyone not knowing what was to come in the night or in the morning. A plt commander crawled by me during the night checking on everyone. I think it was Lt Tibbs.
Many years later and talking to Caption Hoover by phone , he informed me that myself and only 6 more Marines were the only Marines left in 3rd plt on the 9th of December. I didn’t know of Gunny Taylor’s death until the next morning. Glad to make it out alive but morn the loss of two friends and good Marines and many more. Tough time for a 19 y.o.
“ Lest we forget………”
In my previous post I mentioned a Marine from Canada, but could not remember his name. He is David Gurden and was severely wounded on the 4th of December retrieving two the two kia’s. Jalbert and I wrapped up his arm as best we could. Don’t know what ever became of him . I just wanted to correct my post because he was a brave Marine and proud to serve with him
I was with Lima 3/26. I often look for information about Meade River, a major event in my life, but I have found very little. I am grateful to everyone who has contributed to this wonderful recording of history. Semper Fi brothers!
did you know Paul Cumberland from berwyn MD ? Sadly he was killed by sniper fire on 27 feb, 1969 in Bien Hoa… he was 3/26 lima. thank you Dan Dimmick
India Co 3/26 3rd Plt…I was a Point Man during Meade River…My name Jack E Gruenwald 0311 aka.RIP…in the evening of my memories I always go back,Vietnam Class of ‘68 Graduation was a Bitch !! Aye Aye Semper Fi
Jack, I’m Terry Hicks, India 3/26, 3rd platoon, I believe I talked to you many years ago. In our conversation you mentioned Rick Hawkins, If you recall you had a phone # for him. His wife allowed me to talk to him. The conversation was short but he did consent to talk to me. Difficult to talk about Nam , and he cut the call short. I haven’t tried to contact him sense ( had a computer “crash “ and lost much contact info , including yours)
If you are not the person I talked to please disregard this post…….Thanks
Yes Terry its been many moons Brother heres my Email Spacecowboy68@icloud.com…Aye Aye Semper Fi
My Dad, John E. Currin was in 3/26 India Co. 0311. 68-69. I never got to talk specifics with him as he never wanted to talk about being in country, and i sure as hell wasn’t going to ask him about it. I wish i knew the exact battles he was in. He was wounded twice and received two purple hearts from being shot and from a grenade blast that blew lots of shrapnel into his leg. He loved the Marines, loved all of his brothers. He was extremely passionate about helping Vets. Just wondering if any of you recognize his name. Thanks.
I served with a Marine from Oregon ( maybe Portland) with the last name of Currin. I was with him and 2 others the night a mortar hit near us and he and Slocum received shrapnel wounds. Could this be the same person?
Wow, yes that sounds about right. Plus there aren’t many Currin’s around here in Portland. Had to be him! Thank you so much for the reply!
I also was with 3/26 India in 68-69, I have a picture of my squad right before I rotated back in Aug ‘69 , “Curly “ Currin is the picture. I have tried unsuccessfully to locate Currin and Frank Talirico ( Tacoma, Wash.) many times in the last 50 years .
“Curly” haha I love it. Yes that’s definitely my Dad, because I’m friends with Talirico on Facebook. And he always comments on pictures I post of my dad. Thanks Terry, and any other stories you feel like sharing would be awesome.
None that I can put on this site, understand?
Completely. Feel free to email me anytime. I can fill you in on my Dad and even connect you with Talirico.
currinnick@gmail.com
Terry, I was 3/26 India in 68-69, machine gunner. I now have Parkinson’s Disease and dementia with little war memories. Do you remember me Warren Ellis from Ohio? I want so badly to meet someone I served with. I was only 9 months there as I was injured with broken arm and sent home.
Nick
Last Christmas I heard about your Dad’s accident, I’m so sorry, we were friends since day one along with Frank T. Was right there with him when he earned the second Heart on our squad patrol. Was able to call in an Army chopper to get him out, never saw him again but we kept in touch for several years before he passed
Larry Tice
India 3/26 3rd Plt
I tip my hat to my brothers in 3/26 who served at Meade River. I served with Echo 2/26 as we were across the river east of the river. I remember well the first day we set up in the cordon and the last few days before 2/26 was pulled out. When the cordon was set up on the first day, not sure, but we may have been on 3/26’s right flank and Route 4.
Dale Wittler
Echo 1
I was a young marine on 881 with Sergeant Taylor. He pushed us to what we thought were our limits. His leadership saved many of us on the hill. He then saved us again on Operation Meade River as he gave his all.
I was wondering if anyone from 3/26 knew my friend CPL David Moore. He was killed on Dec 8. David was the reason I enlisted into the Marines. I was with 9th MAB, 3rd MARDIV. After reading this link I feel like I know what David went through. His memory has never left me. If you knew David and have any photos of him I would love to have copies of them. You can send them to my Email: Butch_went@yahoo.com. Thanks to everyone who served during Operation Mead River.
My uncle served with company E, BLT 2/26, 9th MAB, FMFPac. He was killed on December 6, 1968 during Operation Mead River; just looking for more information on this operation or anyone in that Company.
Thank you
My brother, Cpl David N. Moore, 3/26 Lima, was KIA December 8th during this operation. His body was brought back by Karl Taylor for whom my family will always be grateful
I keep looking for pictures of my brother…
Semper Fi
My uncle was a radio man there Lance CPL Babe Pinole Alfa 1/7. He passed away Dec 7,1968. A day before your brother
I met S/Sgt. Taylor in January 1968 when we were being transferred to India Co. I got bumped from our helo to Hill 881-S but caught up with him a few days later . He was Plt. Sgt. for India-1 and I became the Right Guide. We became very close during the siege and had a variety of adventures over the rest of 1968. Karl was the older brother that I never had. I last saw him and Lt. Webber on December 4th, 1968. After an attempt at assaulting a bunker I returned to my previous position to find that several of my Marines were wounded and one was KIA. We executed a tactical withdrawal from a bomb crater that had provided shelter and got the wounded med-evac’ed. I spoke with Karl and Lt. Webber about what we had encountered, gave them any goodies I had and said good-bye thinking we would see each other again in the near future. I then went to the LZ for med-evac. I learned of their deaths while at Charlie Med. Two Fine men, Karl was selected for Warrant Officer School. I was the Plt. Sgt for India-3, Lt. Webber’s platoon. S/Sgt. J. M. Jones
I am familiar with the vagaries of recollections so I understand that there are differences among those held by different people who were there. My overall recollection is that Meade River had brutal moments but there were spaces, gaps between actions that provided opportunities to “almost” relax. There were events that should never had happened – India-3 had an LP wiped out by an H&I fire mission conducted by naval 5″ guns. Errors caused by the inaccuracy of the maps of that area although the Artillery Officer who plotted the coordinates felt responsible it really wasn’t his fault. I was India-3-Tango at that time. I lost good Marines that night and decided that there is no such thing as “friendly fire”. That was late November, just a few days before the actions of December 4th. I have found no accounts of that event.
Lost a good friend and India 1st platoon squad leader Herbert Harold “ Dusty “ Rhoades on Veterans Day ( 11-11-2022 ). Went to his funeral in Steele, Mo. Had the pleasure of spending the Marine Corp birthday with him the day before .
Terry
Hope your well bet it’s almost 40 years since we talked on the phone: you were my team leader in 1969
Larry Tice
I Co 3-26 3rd platoon
I had a computer crash years ago and lost all info on people I had communication with, I remember talking to you. A few years ago I talked (texting) with John “Curley” Currin’s son. You might see the conversation on this site.
Good to hear from you, hope all is well with you.
My Husband was with Lima 3/5 3rd Plt . Did you have any contact with them??
I know Col. Torres, he was friends with SSGT. Taylor. These are Marines.
My best friend from H.B. Plant High School in Tampa FL was PFC Aaron Zane Glazar. He was with 3/26 Lima, and was killed on 23 September 1968. Wondered if anyone out here knew him.
55 years ago on this date Operation Meade River began, as a member of India 3/26 third platoon, none of us could have imagined what the next 21days held in store for us . Lost so many good Marines . I still remember the fighting spirit of so many brave Marines, glad to have survived but still morn the loss of so many.
“ Lest we Forget “